Shin makes a stupid choice.
Impressions:
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Well, this show now sucks for me. Damnit, I knew this would happen. I was saying throughout most of the entire series that he would end up with Hiromi. Damn the last episode for giving me some hope for Noe. Still, I said that if he ends up with Hiromi, I’d pretty much hate the show and I really do now, but a little more on that later under Final Thoughts.
Trying to put the overall conclusion aside for a moment, this was a pretty good episode. Even though Shin doesn’t end up with Noe the actual episode itself was pretty good. I thought they at least did a good job explaining how things got to this point. It wasn’t just something that at the end he arbitrarily picks someone…kind of. So I’m trying hard to say this but the individual episode, actual conclusion aside, was fairly good.
Final Thoughts:
There wasn’t much to say in the above section, as I try and keep it to things related to the last episode and this section for the series in general. I said I’d hate the show if this happened, and I almost do. This really doesn’t happen that often where I dislike something based on the outcome like this. Most of the time if there are multiple girls its obvious who he’ll end up with. Even if I like one character more I don’t necessarily think the show would be better if he ended up with her. However this really is one case that I just cannot bring myself to like this conclusion, and I hate the conclusion this much there is no way I can like the series as a whole.
This show was certainly an interesting ride. It was one of the shows I got more involved in of this season and I do have to really applaud it for keeping me guessing as to who he’d end up with. However as hard as I try I cannot bring myself to like this series based on this ending. I’ll admit; when I saw this coming I tried to get myself to like this ending. There were several times I kind of forced myself into saying “Oh, the Hiromi arc isn’t looking so bad” and the final episode actually did an amazing job of making me hate her arc less, but there is still absolutely no contest in that I would have preferred Noe. I dislike Hiromi so much compared to Noe; Noe is a much better character. Not only that but she offers way more to the main character in terms of inspiration and being there for him. I’m trying to really not look at this as a fanboy like perspective, but as I said there are plenty of times when I like a character a lot who doesn’t end with the guy, but I don’t think the show would be better off for it. However this is one case where the show really would be better, and the only way it would be good in any way, if he had chosen different.
Overall, this series was pretty good. In fact it was a great series; however for me personally this show is not that high on my favorites list because of its outcome. Although I see the show for being good somewhat regardless, Noe should have won and since this show for me was heavily based on the outcome, and it didn’t turn out how I think it should have, it isn’t that great in that sense so I cannot bring myself to really like this show.
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I second everything you just said….that is all…
Noe will meet someone better than Shin. Thats probably the only positive thing I can think about this. The whole show was good until the very end, so instead of having an epic drama, we have a great show. I must admit I was rooting for Aiko. At lease she got Miyokichi. Then I was rooting for Noe and Noe got stronger, meet new friends and is a better person. Shinichiro is the only one who actually lost.
I like how I can think a show is awesome but at the end think it’s only meh. This was a great show, but one day I will forget all the awesome parts and only remember the ending.
“Shin makes a stupid choice.”
Maybe. But it’s also a mature choice. Had he switched from Hiromi back to Noe again, then he was just continuing in his indecisiveness; and I would hate him even more.
But he didn’t do that. He did not waver this time. He made his choice and stuck to it like a man.
And what is wrong with Hiromi. She is one hot chick who can do split and pull a bra with her toes. :D
NOE~~~~~~~
bakaneko, that is the stupidest load of crap I’ve ever heard.
He made a mature choice? Bullshit. He never was with Hiromi, so he wouldn’t be switching from Hiromi back to Noe and it wouldn’t be indecisiveness. He’s not a man, he just stayed with the personalty-less girl who forcefully tried to separate him from the girl that ignited his intellectual and creative side.
The ending of this show is absolutely horrid.
I have to agree with Onitheris, going with Noe wouldn’t be switching from Hiromi and it wouldn’t be indecisiveness. In no way is this ending better then a Noe one.
Baaaaww some more ^-^
Dear Onitheris and Xebek,
What are you smoking on? Come on, the entire show is about the wavering of Shin. He started the show having a crush on Hiromi like a school boy. Then when he learned that they may be blood-related, then he went Noe writing in stones how he loved Noe. Now, that’s the real bullshit there! He *never* liked Noe. Anyway, this is his first switch: from Hiromi to Noe.
Then once he learned that Hiromi was not blood-related to him, he started alienating Noe. In fact, he couldn’t even introduce Noe as his girlfriend in front of Aiko! You don’t called that switching again? You don’t call that indecisive? If he was steady with Noe, then why did Noe feel like hell?
So, who’s bullshitting here?
In fact, I would go as far as to say that it is exactly Shin’s indecisiveness that was causing both girls in pain.
With love,
-bakanko
Um, bakanka, when he learned that he wasn’t blood-related, it’s true that he didn’t pay attention to Noe as much - however, by episode 11/12/13, he was right back to thinking about Noe even though they had very little contact. At the final episode he admits that Noe makes his heart “waver”. He even lies to Hiromi at the end of episode 12 to see her. Clearly he had some feelings for Noe that interfered with Hiromi’s.
The question is which is stronger. He is more familiar with his crush on Hiromi because it’s been there for so long, static and unchanging until Noe entered the scene. Thus he goes back to Hiromi but I find it hard to really think it’s a solid choice. Shin himself knows that the most important character development (his drawing, or the Mugiha dance) were due to Noe’s influence (he admits this himself).
All of this is why I always thought that a Noe ending would be a great end to the series, but the writers preferred the traditional childhood friend ending and we can’t really change that.
I agree with everything said by Xebec and Onitheris. This was not a mature choice, it was simply the wrong choice. Even while he was with Hiromi, Shin was thinking about Noe.
As for the overall show and the ending, I would rank the show as best of the season if he ended up with Noe but this ending dropped it to fifth. Yes I hated the ending that much. I have also deleted the entire series from my HD, since there is no point in rewatching if after this finale. Simply put Noe is awesome and Hiromi is a b’otch. Shin is an idiot for making his choice . I just hope Noe is happier without him, as her character was the reason I continued to watch this show.
Noe is an intellectual interest.
Hiromi was the romantic interest.
That’s what Shin was basically saying.
He cares for her. Just not in a way that he would be willing to be with her.
Regardless, I think this show did right what Kimikiss did wrong. Kouchi and Yuumi had significant romantic build up so when he suddenly had a change of heart like that, it felt awkward.
In contrast to this, Shin and Noe’s bond never wandered beyond the neutral interest territory. It was vague enough to argue that he didn’t love her romantically. Or if he did love her, it was not very overbearing.
Noe gets more of the limelight in this episode.Shin was able to indirectly help her get back her tears.. Tho i was initially a shin X hiromi fans, i think noe kinda win the hearts of the audiences isn’t it? I think the writers just purposely want to break our hearts to emphasize the show’s title. True Tears. Because seriously, they made Noe the most enigmatic in the show that just brightens the place and made her cry in the end, it’s optimistic and makes you love Noe even more. Let’s face it. The girl who brought the MOST change in Shin is Noe even if he chose to stay loyal to Hiromi. If they’re gonna do an OVA with Noe as the main character it will be great.It’s Springtime for the master of philosophy and life, Noe!^^
I believe all Hiromi supporters are thinking with the wrong head… it’s that plain and simple… IRL a girl like Noe is infinitely better than a girl like Hiromi… but of course most Hiromi supports have probably not made it that far so they have nothing to compare it with…
I agree that Noe is better than Hiromi..(Noe fan here)
But Hiromi also get some love from me..
Although, I hate Hiromi more than I love her..
The final episode changed my impression of her a little..
Because she realized that she was being selfish..
But surely, Shinichiro won’t let a girl like Noe go just like that..
Personally, I think Noe was the more vibrant outward character, while Hiromi had more depth. The show had a lot of subtlety to it, and Hiromi was a character that was really harder to understand, and definitely came off as a bitch unless you thought about the reasons behind her actions.
I think that in True Tears, devotion is one of the most significant parts of love. Love is almost a permanent feeling in it. Whether that’s true in real life is debatable of course.
But remember, the love pentagon exists because of these uncontrollable feelings of love the characters experience. They’re feelings which people cannot “turn off” or change.
- Jun to his sister
- Hiromi to Shinichirou
- Shinichirou to Hiromi
- Aiko to Shinichirou
- Miyokichi to Aiko
So, Hiromi was trapped between her love for Shinichirou, and her knowledge that she was related to him.
Basically, she’s trapped in a cage, which she cannot get out of. So she tries to lock her emotions away (her “ice-queen” attitude). Unfortunately, Shinichirou’s mother keeps adding to her psychic wounds to her, and she loses control of her emotions. So she tries to get away by asking Jun for a bike ride to “a town where it doesn’t snow”.
On one hand, it’s a selfish and arrogant request. On the other, can you blame her, considering the situation she’s in?
Eventually, she finds out she isn’t related to Shinichirou, she is released from the cage that bound her, and she takes flight (free to act upon her feelings). In episode 10, She makes the decision to move out, and firmly stands by it against Shinichirou’s attempt to have her stay. She mentions how even living under the same roof as him, she never really got to know him.
She then takes another step forward when she tells Jun off (episode 11).
But she’s both jealous and insecure when it comes to Noe. The end of episode 11 has her see Shinichirou rush off to help Noe when she went missing (I’ll note in passing that she’s the one who informs Shinichirou).
So she directly confronts Noe at the festival (episode 12) and asks her to stay away from Shinichirou. (I’ll also mention that this is a major change compared to her reaction towards Noe earlier in the story, when she was still trying to hold back her emotions).
It’s petty, but she also knows it’s petty, which is why she admits what she did to Shinichirou.
But she can’t get rid of her insecurity, which leads to her (awkward) attempt to seduce him (episode 13). She realizes she’s not being herself though, and when she overcomes her fears, she realizes her actions are driving him away, and making her hate herself. So, she ends up being true to herself, and tells him everything. Then he sets him free by saying that he should face up to both Noe and her, and then choose.
I thought she had very realistic reactions to the situation she was in. If you felt someone was stealing your partner, people do react in an awful manner. So she made a lot of bad choices, but Hiromi is ultimately true to herself and chooses the correct path.
Now, at this point, Shinichirou could of chosen Noe. But that choice would of been a discordant note. Hiromi was always someone he wanted to form a relationship with, but whom he never did. He was always watching her and longing to be her strength.
Noe is a brilliant, shining character who is more attractive. But should Shinichirou really be discarding his desires and wishes, which had years of depth behind them, just to be with someone new and wonderful?
Look. At the end of the day, Noe was just a catalyst to enable Shin to be true to himself. Yes, she might have loved him, but he did not love her. You don’t love someone just because they were beneficial to you, do you?
Yes, Shin admitted to himself that Noe is the reason why he could fly (fly = draw, dance, and confess his love properly), but in the same truthfulness he also admitted that he loves hiromi. It is his honesty and braveness to maintain that choice and to properly breakup with Noe in front of her, that I felt he had made a mature choice. Most other guys would delay making that choice as much as possible and ended up being stabbed to death and having his head cutoff and sent to a boat.
It doesn’t matter in the long run, as it doesn’t make the show good. Sure you may be giving a lot of justification for Hiromi’s route but it doesn’t matter because no matter how much it might “fit” it doesn’t make it good. What would have made the show good would have been if he ended up with Noe.
I’ve said this before but I log all anime I download, and keep on several hard drives, and the best I can do with ranking are tiers of top 5, 20, 50, 100, 200 so on. If Shin ended up with Noe this show would have gone into top 5, now it’ll be lucky if it manages to break 200. “At the end of the day” what matters is how well the ending made the entire show worthwhile, and for this show it just didn’t.
Noe win = True Tears = 1 of best anime all time!
Hiromi win = True Tears = Throw away piece of crap waste of time! (except when Noe is on screen)
It is that simple.
Well, difference of opinion I suppose.
I just enjoyed the story and didn’t really favour either side, because I liked both Hiromi and Noe. But I can see Hiromi fans celebrating and Noe fans being angry with the ending.
On a side note, I wonder what would of happened if they tried a Harem ending. That’s one thing I can’t really recall seeing in any romance anime (one that ends properly that is).
Honestly. for an Animeblogger your biased views are quite unbelievable.
JUST because the ending didn’t go the way you wanted, you think this show isn’t good? You might think Noe is a better choice and I won’t say anything against that. Although I am certainly for the Shin x Hiromi Ending, I do believe that Shin x Noe would be great too. How can you justify labelling this show as crap when it was so great for the first 12? Was the ending terrible? Not in any way other than the fact that the girl you liked got dumped. It was still emotional, and to MOST unbaised and MATURE watchers, the show showed how deep an anime could go.
“At the end of the day” what matters is how well the ending made the entire show worthwhile, and for this show it just didn’t.
Yeah right, in what way was the ending bad? The whole show from the start was showing the relationship betweeen Hiromi x Shin, so an ending with them was already very plausible. Again, I certainly don’t mind Noe x Shin. What I do care about is the million flamers that are immature enough to bash this show because they ddin’t get the end-girl they wanted.
lol, whatever…I mean I can tell from the comments everyone else agrees with you….lol
The ending is bad, ruining the rest, because all of the intellectual progress and depth he found in his relationship with Noe is ruined by going with a girl with no personality that wouldn’t help him at all.
But whatever, if you are as much as a raving fan of the show like you seem to be it doesn’t really matter what I say. God forbid someone would dislike this show you seem to like.
Kind of find it funny the guy tries to call himself a mature viewer, but goes around with various words fully capitalized. Fine to have enjoyed the show, but foolish to call oneself mature.
Let’s face it no one is unbiased. Blogger pick the shows they want to watch because the expect to enjoy themselves. Aren’t putting names of series in a hat and pulling them out randomly. This is something done for no other reason but to voice the mind of the person writing. What point would there be not saying how one really feels about a series?
Obviously if you were hoping for a Noe ending (guilty) then the show would be hurt by having the guy end up with Hiromi. It’s not going to be the same if the ending goes in a direction you didn’t like. Endings aren’t everything, but they are important. How the show leaves things will affect how you view the overall experience.
At any rate True Tears is done. Whether you enjoyed the show, disliked it, or are somewhere in between is a personal thing. The show won’t go down as one of my all-time favourites. It was an interesting experience if nothing else. Even if how it would end was pretty predictable a little over half way through.
Actually I don’t know about you but the ending was rather unpredictable to me. Certainly episode 10 ended with a strong sense of a Hiromi ending, but the next two episodes made the viewers think that it actually could be a Noe ending. If it was that obvious Hiromi was going to win, the flamers wouldn’t be so pissed at the final episode -.-. Yes I also agree that the ending DOES affect your opinion of the show a lot. However, I don’t see how you can justify dropping True Tears from a possible top 5 position to something that barely breaks 200, especially since the only problem was that the end-girl wasn’t the one you wanted. Certainly I don’t think the ending was that great either (and I’m a Hiromi fan too.), it wasn’t emotional enough to be impressive. But it certainly wasn’t a bad ending, so thats why I was complaining. I do accept other people’s opinions too, it’s just that the drop from 5 to 200 in one episode. was too unplausible for me to bear.
And how is fully captilised words immature? It enforces a point - nothing more nothing less. It’s often used in exam papers e.g. do NOT use pencil…so I don’t see your justfication for saying that. It’s like saying having words in italics to enforce a point is immature. It isn’t.