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		<title>By: Alias</title>
		<link>http://xebek.animeblogger.net/2007/03/14/kanon-remake-23/comment-page-1/#comment-28670</link>
		<dc:creator>Alias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2007 13:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, Key officially only made 3 big games; not including Planetarium, because that isn&#039;t a game, and Tomoyo after, because it&#039;s basically made to meet the demands of all the fans screaming &quot;Where did the pr0n go?&quot; One: the eternal promise didn&#039;t take place in autumn, or so I&#039;ve been led to belive, and and even if it did, it didn&#039;t exactly have the same fame as Kanon and it&#039;s subsequent works. Unless you are one of those Die hard fans, most of us probaly won&#039;t even know what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Key officially only made 3 big games; not including Planetarium, because that isn&#8217;t a game, and Tomoyo after, because it&#8217;s basically made to meet the demands of all the fans screaming &#8220;Where did the pr0n go?&#8221; One: the eternal promise didn&#8217;t take place in autumn, or so I&#8217;ve been led to belive, and and even if it did, it didn&#8217;t exactly have the same fame as Kanon and it&#8217;s subsequent works. Unless you are one of those Die hard fans, most of us probaly won&#8217;t even know what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Xebek</title>
		<link>http://xebek.animeblogger.net/2007/03/14/kanon-remake-23/comment-page-1/#comment-13752</link>
		<dc:creator>Xebek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:36:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ll probably do a post about that news later when there is more info. Makes me wonder if they will be doing Air or the fourth game Key made. (Key made four games, one for each season. Air: Summer, Kanon: Winter, Clannad: Spring)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ll probably do a post about that news later when there is more info. Makes me wonder if they will be doing Air or the fourth game Key made. (Key made four games, one for each season. Air: Summer, Kanon: Winter, Clannad: Spring)</p>
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		<title>By: solgae</title>
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		<dc:creator>solgae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 21:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another great series coming to an end......but another good news is coming.

KyoAni will be animating Clannad, another great game from Key!! About time I&#039;d say.

http://www.bs-i.co.jp/clannad/

Most likely more info would come at March 20th according to the website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another great series coming to an end&#8230;&#8230;but another good news is coming.</p>
<p>KyoAni will be animating Clannad, another great game from Key!! About time I&#8217;d say.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bs-i.co.jp/clannad/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bs-i.co.jp/clannad/</a></p>
<p>Most likely more info would come at March 20th according to the website.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know - but I don&#039;t really think it&#039;s a sound rationale, hence my post.  No offense, but I just didn&#039;t think you played the devil&#039;s advocate that well.  It wouldn&#039;t make sense for Ayu to use her last wish to make Yuuichi go for Nayuki (why Nayuki?  Why not Shiori/ Mai/ let Yuucihi choose whoever he feels like?), and it&#039;d make for an unsatisfying ending for Ayu and Nayuki fans alike if she did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know &#8211; but I don&#8217;t really think it&#8217;s a sound rationale, hence my post.  No offense, but I just didn&#8217;t think you played the devil&#8217;s advocate that well.  It wouldn&#8217;t make sense for Ayu to use her last wish to make Yuuichi go for Nayuki (why Nayuki?  Why not Shiori/ Mai/ let Yuucihi choose whoever he feels like?), and it&#8217;d make for an unsatisfying ending for Ayu and Nayuki fans alike if she did.</p>
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		<title>By: Xebek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xebek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah, lol, I never said that I believed that is what happened or will happen. I&#039;m just giving the only rationale behind a Nayuki ending which as I said above I don&#039;t believe will happen. I agree that the theme of the show and the way things have gone lead themselves to an Ayu ending. That fits not just the ending it seems to b heading to but the whole theme. I&#039;m just playing devils advocate on that theory saying that would be how Nayuki could possibility be justified, even if it wouldn&#039;t be as fitting as an end then Ayu&#039;s would.

You seemed to kind of rant off on me for saying that, just want to make sure you know that that described Nayuki ending is not what I think will happen nor what I want to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah, lol, I never said that I believed that is what happened or will happen. I&#8217;m just giving the only rationale behind a Nayuki ending which as I said above I don&#8217;t believe will happen. I agree that the theme of the show and the way things have gone lead themselves to an Ayu ending. That fits not just the ending it seems to b heading to but the whole theme. I&#8217;m just playing devils advocate on that theory saying that would be how Nayuki could possibility be justified, even if it wouldn&#8217;t be as fitting as an end then Ayu&#8217;s would.</p>
<p>You seemed to kind of rant off on me for saying that, just want to make sure you know that that described Nayuki ending is not what I think will happen nor what I want to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Mar 2007 03:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Second, the unknown wish is something the old series didn’t have, which leads to believe that Ayu could very well have wished for Yuuichi to be with Nayuki. If she doesn’t want him to forget her but still remain happy that could have been a logical wish in Ayu’s mindset.&quot;

Several problems with that theory.  First, as far as we know, Ayu isn&#039;t aware that Nayuki is in love with Yuuichi per se, making it illogical for her to wish Yuuichi into a relationship with Nayuki when there are so many other girls still out there - some of whom Yuuichi has exhibited more affection for.  A wish of such a nature would imply that it is Nayuki&#039;s happiness that Ayu is wishing for, when in reality it is Yuuichi that she cares for.  Why would she wish him with Nayuki when she does not know that Nayuki loves him, and when there are at least two other girls who feature just as prominently in his life (Mai and Shiori)?  

Moreover, if that was Ayu&#039;s wish, it would make for a profoundly unsatisfying and anticlimatic conclusion.  The implication would be, after all, that Yuuichi is only trying a relationship with Nayuki because Ayu wanted him to.  Their relationship would be a consequence of Ayu&#039;s desire to see Yuuichi happy rather than any genuine romantic affection on Yuuichi&#039;s part; the anime has been most assiduous in its careful removal of the romantic aspect from Nayuki&#039;s path.  That&#039;s one of the reasons why people have complained about Nayuki&#039;s story so far - it&#039;s a stripped down version of the original version, divorced from its essence, which was romance.  They even cut out the kiss.  Shiori, at least, got a kiss on the cheek.  Nayuki&#039;s was removed entirely.  The reconciliation was the strongest sign yet that she is out of the picture - it was wholly and entirely unromantic, when in the game it was THE romantic scene the couple shared.  

Additionally, it would leave Ayu&#039;s story in itself unresolved.  Ayu has to return for her story to close off, for the simple reason that she isn&#039;t dead (and if they decide that she is, a lot of her monologues don&#039;t really make sense); leaving her in a coma isn&#039;t an option because her situation would be left unresolved.  She has to wake up in the final episode, and that really denies the possibility of an ending alternate from the original series.  For if Ayu wakes up, what does that make of a wish for Yuuichi to be happy without her? 

There&#039;s also the fact that Kanon is a story about miracles - one which has a childishly optimistic outlook on the world in general.  Kanon&#039;s view is, and has always been, that miracles are achievable realities if an individual desires them enough, or if he or she is willing to sacrifice something in return.  It would seem manifestly peculiar to have Ayu the only girl to be denied her game &#039;happy ending&#039; (for surely, Mai will graduate and Shiori will survive - it has been too long since their stories finished for their unhappy endings to carry any real emotional weight), when she is, to all intents and purposes, the main girl.  It&#039;d also make something of Kanon that it was never intended to be - a story about the true love, moving on, letting go, etc, instead of a story about the power of miracles and wishes and dreams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Second, the unknown wish is something the old series didn’t have, which leads to believe that Ayu could very well have wished for Yuuichi to be with Nayuki. If she doesn’t want him to forget her but still remain happy that could have been a logical wish in Ayu’s mindset.&#8221;</p>
<p>Several problems with that theory.  First, as far as we know, Ayu isn&#8217;t aware that Nayuki is in love with Yuuichi per se, making it illogical for her to wish Yuuichi into a relationship with Nayuki when there are so many other girls still out there &#8211; some of whom Yuuichi has exhibited more affection for.  A wish of such a nature would imply that it is Nayuki&#8217;s happiness that Ayu is wishing for, when in reality it is Yuuichi that she cares for.  Why would she wish him with Nayuki when she does not know that Nayuki loves him, and when there are at least two other girls who feature just as prominently in his life (Mai and Shiori)?  </p>
<p>Moreover, if that was Ayu&#8217;s wish, it would make for a profoundly unsatisfying and anticlimatic conclusion.  The implication would be, after all, that Yuuichi is only trying a relationship with Nayuki because Ayu wanted him to.  Their relationship would be a consequence of Ayu&#8217;s desire to see Yuuichi happy rather than any genuine romantic affection on Yuuichi&#8217;s part; the anime has been most assiduous in its careful removal of the romantic aspect from Nayuki&#8217;s path.  That&#8217;s one of the reasons why people have complained about Nayuki&#8217;s story so far &#8211; it&#8217;s a stripped down version of the original version, divorced from its essence, which was romance.  They even cut out the kiss.  Shiori, at least, got a kiss on the cheek.  Nayuki&#8217;s was removed entirely.  The reconciliation was the strongest sign yet that she is out of the picture &#8211; it was wholly and entirely unromantic, when in the game it was THE romantic scene the couple shared.  </p>
<p>Additionally, it would leave Ayu&#8217;s story in itself unresolved.  Ayu has to return for her story to close off, for the simple reason that she isn&#8217;t dead (and if they decide that she is, a lot of her monologues don&#8217;t really make sense); leaving her in a coma isn&#8217;t an option because her situation would be left unresolved.  She has to wake up in the final episode, and that really denies the possibility of an ending alternate from the original series.  For if Ayu wakes up, what does that make of a wish for Yuuichi to be happy without her? </p>
<p>There&#8217;s also the fact that Kanon is a story about miracles &#8211; one which has a childishly optimistic outlook on the world in general.  Kanon&#8217;s view is, and has always been, that miracles are achievable realities if an individual desires them enough, or if he or she is willing to sacrifice something in return.  It would seem manifestly peculiar to have Ayu the only girl to be denied her game &#8216;happy ending&#8217; (for surely, Mai will graduate and Shiori will survive &#8211; it has been too long since their stories finished for their unhappy endings to carry any real emotional weight), when she is, to all intents and purposes, the main girl.  It&#8217;d also make something of Kanon that it was never intended to be &#8211; a story about the true love, moving on, letting go, etc, instead of a story about the power of miracles and wishes and dreams.</p>
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